Carne con chile, meat with chile sauce, is a bedrock recipe not only in Sonora, Mexico, but also Arizona, as well as parts of New Mexico, too.

Not to be confused with chile con carne, which is basically just the long way of saying “chili,” carne con chile is a very simple dish of braised meat, venison in this case, with a simple chile sauce, served with rice and beans.

But if you’ve read anything on this website, you know what’s coming next: With anything so simple, ingredients and technique make all the difference.

I’ve eaten this dish many times, and it can range from “meh” to mesmerizing. Everything on the plate matters. How well cooked is the meat? Is the chile sauce rich and complex, or has it been poured out of a can that arrived on a Sysco truck? Ditto for the beans and rice.

Let’s get the beans and rice out of the way first, then deal with the carne con chile. I haven’t posted my Mexican red rice recipe yet, so for now, use one from Pati Jinich, who has a great TV show on Mexican food I highly recommend. The beans are my frijoles fronterizos, or border beans. I use desert tepary beans for it, but pintos are also used a lot, as are the little pinquito beans, which are like mini pintos.

Now, on to the carne con chile itself.

Your best bet is to use some sort of meat with a lot of connective tissue in it. I prefer venison neck roast, or shanks, or venison shoulder. All of those parts on goats or sheep are perfect, too. With beef, shanks or oxtail or brisket or chuck is what you want.

I don’t see this too often in Sonora or Arizona, but I always smoke my meat first. It adds a ton of flavor, and remember, carne con chile isn’t complicated like, say, mole negro, so each little trick helps. I salt my meat overnight, or even for a couple days, then smoke big pieces at about 185°F for about three hours. Enough to get a nice smoke ring and smoky flavor.

Then we braise the meat. I pretty much always use the basic Mexican braising concoction I use for venison barbacoa, which is, roughly, a quart of stock, two quarts of water, a quartered onion, some smashed garlic cloves, a chipotle or three, and lots of aromatics: bay leaves, hoja santa leaves or epazote.

While that cooks, you make the chile sauce. This is the red chile sauce you see all over the Desert Southwest. Everyone makes it slightly different. Here’s my version.

Lots of sandia chiles, which are like guajillos — bright red and mildly hot — charred onion and garlic, a few chiles morita (these are little red chipotles you see in cans), plus cumin and Mexican oregano, thinned with the braising liquid you cook the venison in.

The sauce lives or dies on the flavors of smoke and char. Toasted chiles and cumin seeds. Charred onion and garlic. And I use smoked salt to season it. So yeah, while it looks like a boring sauce, there’s a lot going on in my carne con chile.

Serve this with the rice and beans, of course, and some homemade flour tortillas — carne con chile is from flour tortilla country, not corn, although I won’t come to your house and beat you up if you prefer corn. Soak some chopped white onion in lime juice and chop some cilantro to finish it all off.

Once made, the meat will keep, refrigerated in its braising liquid, for a week. The chile sauce will keep for several weeks in the fridge. To serve, you shred the meat roughly, then toss with some of the warm chile sauce. I recognize that many versions of carne con chile cook the meat in the sauce, but I find that deadens the flavor of the sauce. You can do either.